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Interview with Judy Rodgers

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"The seeds of the new world are living in the midst of the chaos and cacophony of the old one"

- Judy Rodgers

By Manoel Fernandes Neto, Rosa Alegria and Brigida Fries

"History tells us that breakdowns - small and large - are often the catalyst for the emergence of a new world order". The statement is by the coordinator of the projectc "Images and Voices of Hope", Judy Rodgers, that will be in Brasil next Saturday, 24th of November, participating of the event Imagens e Vozes da Esperanca, that will take place in Rio de Janeiro.

Former Executive Vice-President of a division of New World Knowledge Entertainment, ex-director of programming of CBS/Fox Video and the department of sports programs of Twentieth Century Fox Video, Judy will meet in the event journalists, artists, intellectuals, editors, professionals conected to the media. The challange is imense: to dialogue and define the positive impact in transmission of data and description of facts. This global conversation is taking the media planetary. Events already occurred in the cities of Sao Paulo, New York, Boston, Miami, Providence, Seattle, Chicago, Santiago do Chile, Tampa, Toronto, London, Ottawa, Vancouver, Capetown, Seul, Denver, Orlando, Dallas and Los Angeles. "Images and Voices of Hope is an agent of the community and transformation. It gives us an opportunity to reflect on the impact of our messages and images and about what we could do collectivelly if we thought about media and arts not merely as businesses, but as agents for the benefit of the world", says the communicator that on the 26th in Sao Paulo also participates of the Workshop "Spirit in Business" for presidents and directors of companies at Espaco Nutrimental, with the support of World Business Academy, Instituto Ethos e Brahma Kumaris . But how to create positive images of the world after September 11? How to syntonize histories of hope without abandoning reality? These and other questions were answered by Judy Rodgers by email, exclusively for Nova-e and Midia da Paz, when she was preparing to her trip to Brasil.

For her, the moment has come to implement these transformations: "After three years of meeting with artists, media professionals and journalists in countries all over the world I have no doubt about the strong will of all of us to be agents of benefit." See the whole interview:

Nova-e - What is your assessment of the moment the world is facing today, the attention being towards war, vengeance, and prejudice? What would be, in your opinion and despite all that, the alternatives for people to continue believing that real peace is possible?

Judy Rodgers -The world is in a delicate balance at this moment. No matter what our country of origin or spiritual affiliations, it is clear that many of the long-running divisions between the Northern World and the Southern World, the so-called "first" and "third" world, the Moslem, Christian, and Jewish Worlds have come to a head. We have forgotten what we have in common and have succumbed to a kind of partisanship that serves none of us.

History tells us that breakdowns - small and large - are often the catalyst for the emergence of a new world order. I believe the seeds of the new world are living in the midst of the chaos and cacophony of the old one. It is up to us to develop the capacity to see them for what they are. Epochal change never shows up as a parade down the main street of our largest cities. It ripples across the consciousness of the world, stirring individuals in their intimate conversations and appearing first in small gatherings and peripheral publications. This is true whether you look at the start of the world's great religions or the birth of a new national order as happened in the last decade in Poland. Real peace is a consciousness that each of us reclaims in the privacy or our heart and head. Once we have done that, we begin to have the capacity to see the emergent order in ways that those around us often cannot.

Nova-e - How can we think of a world that we want and see it as a real possibility in a context of negative images?

Judy Rodgers -Negative images can serve a very similar function to breakdowns. They can tear at the fabric of our complacency and introduce a sudden awareness that catalyzes us to action. The image of the young man facing the tank in Tianamen Square was such an image. The image of the young girl running naked down the street in Viet Nam was another. For many people the World Trade Centers burning in the heart of New York City will be another such indelible image. The first image produced a groundswell of support for the Chinese students. The second one caused citizens of the United States to harden in their opposition to the Viet Nam war. This final image of the World Trade Centers created such an outpouring of support that the American Red Cross and the United Way, both of whom created funds to help those devastated by the tragedies of 911, finally had to admit that they were unable to spend the money that they had received.

However, while a negative image can be a powerful agent of transformation, a stream of negative images has the reverse affect of numbing the viewer and causing us to recoil in fear and helplessness. A constant diet of negative images cannot produce the real generativity the world needs at this time.

Nova-e - What is the meaning of the global dialogue that the project "Images and Voices of Hope" has been implementing? What have been the results?

Judy Rodgers -Images and Voices of Hope is an agent of community and transformation for the journalists, media professionals, and artists who collectively constitute the "world media system", if I can coin a term. It gives us an opportunity to come together to reflect on the impact of our messages and images and on what it is we might do collectively if we thought of media and the arts not merely as businesses but as agents of world benefit.

Many of the outcomes of this project have been dispersed in many locations of the world. Often we will hear later about a radio program that aired in Argentina or a community project that started in Chicago. There are a number of results that we are aware of: art exhibitions on Hope in Providence Rhode Island sponsored by the Rhode Island School of Design, a film festival in South Florida, two television specials through the Public Broadcasting System, a youth-sponsored initiative in Santiago, etc. Nova-e - With the Internet approach, which are the main responsibilities of the new opinion makers who use this medium, fantastic in its facility of dissemination? Judy Rodgers -What comes to mind immediately for me was the outpouring of letters that circulated on the Internet after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in September. With each passing day there were more letters and essays and most of them were quite reflective, asking what role the US might have played in arousing this level of anger, expressing gratitude to the firefighters who rushed back into the World Trade Center to attempt to help people escape, and explaining that Moslems are a deeply peace loving people. This ability of the Internet to support rapid and widespread dissemination of ideas in the moment is extraordinarily powerful. Nova-e - In your opinion, to what extent have the commercials, news, radio programs, TV shows, and movies influenced the attacks on September 11th in the United States? Can we make a correlation?

Judy Rodgers -There is quite a bit written about the impact of the media on society and obviously this is one reason why Images and Voices of Hope has come into being - to acknowledge the powerful role played by the World Media in influencing the consciousness of people on all continents. The most important response we can have is to acknowledge the extraordinary influence of public images and messages and to ask what we might do to use this influence in the most positive way possible. Nova-e - As Images and Voices of Hope spreads globally will it influence the world public authorities so that they take measures to combat social exclusion and read for peace on Earth? How do you see this challenge?

Judy Rodgers - We just spoke above about the immense influence of public images and messages on the thoughts and actions of the world. If the media has the capacity to contribute to the violence and anger and fear of the past, it certainly has the capacity to contribute to peace, compassion and courage in the future. This kind of shift doesn't happen through proclamation. It happens because thousands of artists, media professionals and journalists make a commitment to dedicate themselves and their work to being agents of benefit for the world.

Nova-e - Bringing to the real practical level, what may appear utopic for many, in your opinion, what are some positive references in media today? Judy Rodgers - After the attacks of September 11, there was an outpouring of inspiring writing and photography in the media. Time Magazine ran the wonderful and widely circulated story of the airplane pilot to appealed to his passengers to "think like a family" during the course of the flight. Newsweek Magazine ran a whole issue on heroes and acts of heroism. The Christian Science Monitor has always stood out as a special case in journalism. I believe their motto is "to harm no man and bless everyone." There are new start-up publications such as Yes! Magazine about positive futures and Hope Magazine. There are also many powerful television specials and films. After three years of meeting with artists, media professionals, and journalists in countries all over the world, I have no doubt about the strong will of all of us to be agents of benefit. The most important thing that we can do, beyond whatever we do in the course of our work is to patronize the media business and media outlets that are working as agents of benefit and to encourage our friends to do the same. This will address the perception that people only want to read about bad news and violence.

Em portugues

Manoel Fernandes Neto, journalist, is the publisher of NovaE - digital magazine and publishing and content director of MFN Comunicacao . He is also the Midia da Paz publisher. See more:

Colaboration: Rosa Alegria - alegria@uol.com.br , Brigida Fries - Brahma Kumaris

English e Portuguese:

Sandra Costa e Daniela Soares, Brahma

 

 

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